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{{footnote-newspaper | title= | newspaper=San Francisco Call | year=1908 | month=2 | day=11 | pages=9 | last= | first= | url= }}
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* In 1909, he had a brief stint playing first base for Quincy of the Central Association, and then got into one game for Albany in the New York State League.  He was pulled from center field after misjudging a fly ball early in the game and released the next day.
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* In 1912, he was hired as manager of Muscatine of the Central Association.  Once again, he lasted only a few weeks, leading the club to one win and 15 losses.  He also played 15 games, slugging .460.
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{{footnote-newspaper | title= | newspaper=Waterloo Times Tribune | year=1909 | month=8 | day=8 | pages=2 | last= | first= | url= }}
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{{footnote-newspaper | title= | newspaper=Utica Herald Dispatch | year=1909 | month=8 | day=9 | pages=9 | last= | first= | url= }}
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{{footnote-newspaper | title= | newspaper=Utica Herald Dispatch | year=1909 | month=8 | day=10 | pages=9 | last= | first= | url= }}
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* The Boston Braves signed him early in 1912, and released him at the end of spring training.  He then signed on with the New York club in the short-lived United States League.  That sumer, he was hired as manager of Muscatine of the Central Association.  Once again, he lasted only a few weeks, leading the club to one win and 15 losses.  He also played 15 games, slugging .460.
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{{footnote-newspaper | title= | newspaper=Sporting Life | year=1912 | month=4 | day=13 | pages=4 | last= | first= | url= }}
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{{footnote-newspaper | title= | newspaper=Decatur Daily Review | year=1912 | month=8 | day=2 | pages=5 | last= | first= | url= }}
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* In 1914, he was appointed manager of Portsmouth of the Class C Virginia League.  He stocked the club with players from his Brooklyn-based semi-pro team, but he (and they) were fired before spring training ended when it didn't appear the club would be competitive.
 
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{{footnote-newspaper | title= | newspaper=Brooklyn Daily Eagle | year=1914 | month=4 | day=18 | pages= | last= | first= | url= }}
 
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* He supposedly played in the Georgia State League that year and compiled a .359 batting average, leading to him being drafted by the Chicago White Sox.  Meanwhile, when the St. Louis club of the Federal League played in Brooklyn in September, they signed Wall, but didn't play him.
 
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{{footnote-newspaper | title= | newspaper=Sporting Life | year=1914 | month=9 | day=26 | pages=3 | last= | first= | url= }}
 
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{{footnote-newspaper | title= | newspaper=Brooklyn Daily Eagle | year=1914 | month=9 | day=11 | pages=2 | last= | first= | url= }}
 
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* The shortage of players due to World War I got him a chance with Bridgeport in 1918, who probably didn't realize he was almost 42 years old when they signed him.  After making two errors in left field his first game there, he was released.
 
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{{footnote-newspaper | title= | newspaper=Sporting News | year=1918 | month=7 | day=18 | pages=8 | last= | first= | url= }}
 
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* He managed Newport News to a 1 and 6 start in the Virginia League in 1920 before resigning.
 
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{{footnote-newspaper | title= | newspaper=Sporting News | year=1920 | month=5 | day=13 | pages=8 | last= | first= | url= }}
 
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* The next year, Lakeland in the Florida State League lost its first 13 games (at least) and replaced manager Harry Swacina with Wall.  It took them about four days to change their mind and reinstate Swacina.
 
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{{footnote-newspaper | title= | newspaper=Miami Herald | year=1921 | month=5 | day=21 | pages=6 | last= | first= | url= }}
 
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* In 1924, he lasted a full ten days as manager of Wilkes-Barre (NYP) after replacing Tom Downey.
 
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{{footnote-newspaper | title= | newspaper=Sporting News | year=1924 | month=6 | day=12 | pages=1 | last= | first= | url= }}
 
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{{footnote-newspaper | title= | newspaper=Albany Evening Herald | year=1924 | month=6 | day=23 | pages=10 | last= | first= | url= }}
 
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* Other teams he may have played for: Unknown team in Atlantic League prior to 1900 (according to 2/10/1900 Sporting Life), Providence in Eastern League in 1900 (per 8/25/1900 and 2/16/1901 Sporting Life), Rutland, VT in the independent Northern League in 1905 (7/1/1905 Lowell Sun), 1906 East Liverpool P-O-M League (6/10/1906 Philadelphia Inquirer), 1914 Quincy I-I-I League (4/25/1914 Sporting Life), 1914 Waycross of the Georgia St. League (9/11/1914 Brooklyn Eagle), 1915 Frankfort of the Ohio State League (6/12/1915 Sporting Life), 1918 Topeka- Western League (7/9/1918 Bridgeport Telegram), 1920 Newport News Virginia League (4/18/1920 Brooklyn Eagle), 1921 Lakeland of Florida State League (see [[Unknown Wall]]), Waterbury of the Eastern League- 1924 or earlier (7/17/1936 Brooklyn Eagle, 6/26/1924 Binghamton Press), 1924 Wilkes-Barre of the NY-P League (6/12/1924 Sporting News)
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* He was signed as player and/or manager of the following clubs but was released before appearing in a game: 1904 NY American League (6/11/1904 Washington Post), 1905 Albany of Eastern League (4/22/1905 Sporting Life), possibly 1907 Cleveland American League (10/6/1906 Sporting Life), 1908 San Francisco-PCL (2/21/1908 San Francisco Call), 1912 Boston National League (2/24/1912 Sporting Life), 1914 Portsmouth of the Virginia League (4/25/1914 Sporting Life), 1914 St. Louis of the Federal League (9/11/1914 Brooklyn Eagle),  1922 Kalamazoo- Central League (12/29/1921 New York Evening Telegram)
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* Meanwhile, he ran various semi-pro teams in Brooklyn beginning with the All-Americans in 1902, which included [[Harry Howell]], [[Fred Jacklitsch]], and other professional players.
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{{footnote-newspaper | title= | newspaper=Brooklyn Daily Eagle | year=1902 | month=12 | day=23 | pages=16 | last= | first= | url= }}
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* Other clubs he organized over the years (some of which may be the same club with a different name): Joe Wall's All-Leaguers (9/2/1905 Poughkeepsie Daily Eagle), Joe Wall's All Stars (4/27/1908 Brooklyn Daily Eagle), Joe Wall's All Professionals (5/10/1908 NY Press), Ryder Club (10/7/1912 Brooklyn Daily Eagle), Brooklyn Bloomer Girls (9/2/1913 Brooklyn Eagle), Paterson (5/25/1914 NY Sun), Troy (NY) (7/7/1916 Schenectady Gazette), Joe Wall's Big Leaguers (5/10/1918 Brooklyn Eagle), St. Peter's Catholic Club (4/25/1923 Rome Daily Sentinel), Joe Wall's Minor Leaguers (4/13/1927 NY Amsterdam News), Watertown (NY) (7/9/1928 Watertown Times), Joe Wall's College of Baseball team (7/31/1935 NY Post)
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* He also ran various baseball schools in NYC beginning in 1918.  Over the years, he would claim to have developed such players as [[Waite Hoyt]], [[Billy Jurges]], [[Hi Myers]], [[Hack Wilson]], and [[Pie Traynor]].
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{{footnote-newspaper | title= | newspaper=Brooklyn Daily Eagle | year=1918 | month=4 | day=28 | pages=3 | last= | first= | url= }}
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{{footnote-newspaper | title= | newspaper=Rome Daily Sentinel | year=1923 | month=12 | day=18 | pages=9 | last= | first= | url= }}
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{{footnote-newspaper | title= | newspaper=Lowell Sun | year=1929 | month=3 | day=30 | pages=12 | last= | first= | url= }}
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* Wall spent years attempting to organize a minor league in upstate New York and neighboring states in the 1920's without success.  He also tried to revive the New England League in 1905 as well as a McKeesport (PA) team for the Middle Atlantic League in 1928, both unsuccessfully.
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{{footnote-newspaper | title= | newspaper=Lowville Journal Republican | year=1929 | month=2 | day=7 | pages= | last= | first= | url= }}
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{{footnote-newspaper | title= | newspaper=Christian Science Monitor | year=1904 | month=10 | day=17 | pages=6 | last= | first= | url= }}
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{{footnote-newspaper | title= | newspaper=Monessen Daily Independent | year=1928 | month=2 | day=3 | pages=8 | last= | first= | url= }}
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* He also ran an indoor baseball team for at least two winters which included [[George McQuillan]], [[Doc Scanlan]], [[Fred Jacklitsch]],[[Joe Lake]], and [[Jack Knight]].
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{{footnote-newspaper | title= | newspaper=New York Press | year=1909 | month=12 | day=3 | pages=9 | last= | first= | url= }}
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{{footnote-newspaper | title= | newspaper=New York Press | year=1910 | month=12 | day=1 | pages= | last= | first= | url= }}
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* There were at least three benefit games played on behalf of him or his family.  The first was in 1916, when he was recovering from a long illness. {{footnote-newspaper | title= | newspaper=Brooklyn Daily Eagle | year=1916 | month=8 | day=31 | pages=3 | last= | first= | url= }} The next was in 1922, when he was suffering from bronchitis and pneumonia. {{footnote-newspaper | title= | newspaper=Brooklyn Daily Eagle | year=1922 | month=10 | day=10 | pages=A3 | last= | first= | url= }} Finally, after his death from a heart attack {{footnote-newspaper | title= | newspaper=Chicago Daily Tribune | year=1936 | month=7 | day=18 | pages=16 | last= | first= | url= }}, his many friends in the Brooklyn baseball community got one up featuring mainly minor league players against the New York Cubans. {{footnote-newspaper | title= | newspaper=Brooklyn Daily Eagle | year=1936 | month=9 | day=21 | pages=10 | last= | first= | url= }}
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* Wall took an interest in other sports as well, once promoting a basketball team called Joe Wall's Big Five {{footnote-newspaper | title= | newspaper=Brooklyn Daily Eagle | year=1925 | month=3 | day=24 | pages=4A | last= | first= | url= }} and serving as a timer at motorcycle races at the Bay Ridge Oval track, where a trophy was named in his honor following his death.
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{{footnote-newspaper | title= | newspaper=New York Evening Post | year=1936 | month=8 | day=7 | pages=16 | last= | first= | url= }}
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